A proposed set of guidelines. V.1 Beta

[Pyro]

I propose a set of standards... Some members here do not know how to act sometimes... So I will make a list of standards for: All users, Tails Doll Believers, Tails Doll Nonbelievers, Logic Users (pro-tails doll), and Logic Users (anti-tails doll)...
Note: These are just for the general public and I cannot do jack-shit, because I am not an administrator...

All Users:

• Bumping a topic that is older than a few months is not advised...
  
• All posts should be relevant to the topic and be a reasonable length.
  Nonexample: "lol", "...", "XD", "^_^", etc...
  
• Be respectful... Don't just accuse someone for no reason without a reasonable cause.
  Nonexample: "You are nice and like the doll, YOU MUST BE A SLAVE!!!!"
  
• Don't make pointless arguments for no apparent reason.
  
• Proper spelling and grammar are recommended.
  Tip: Firefox has a built in spellchecker, so if you have it, use it...
  
• Don't be a noob. Because someone posts something contradictory to what you say, that doesn't entitle you to be an ass.
  

Tails Doll Believers:

• You should have proof to back up your claims. Don't just make statements and get pissed when your statement has holes in it.
  
• Don't force anyone to believe in the doll, it's for yourself to decide.
  
• Make sense. Don't make claims that are meaningless or contradict you on purpose...
  
• Don't expect anyone to believe you.
  
• Don't make up bullshit to just piss people off...
  
• Listen to other members who can provide possible explanations, it doesn't mean you have to believe them, you just could change your own claims if you messed something up or understand something you didn't understand before...
  
• Be open to other theories, your theory isn't necessarily true...
  

Tails Doll Nonbelievers:

• Saying that someone's lying should only be used under dire circumstances... Or if the person is obviously lying.
  
• Read through what someone posts, don't just skip it and say "bullshit".
  Example: "You're stupid, TD doesn't exist, bullshit!"
  
• You are not required to believe in the tails doll.
  
• You cannot force others to change their views on TD.
  
• Respect those who believe TD.
  
• Just because it doesn't make any sense, it doesn't mean that it's wrong...
  
• You are required to back up your claims against TD. As long as you cannot disprove what someone says, it doesn't mean you can ignore it. It's okay if you cannot come up with a reasonable explanation.
  
• "Double Jeopardy" is fine, unless it involves bumping a topic or annoying someone.
  

Logic Users (Pro-TD):

• You can come up with anything at all to try to prove TD.
  Tip: The Devil's Proof is your greatest weapon. If you don't understand, there is a definition at the bottom of the page.
  
• You can be challenged by what you say, so you should have some patience.
  
• Have some mercy with the TD Nonbelievers.
  
• Try to make reasonable claims, nothing too out of the ordinary.
  Example: "TD teamed up with aliens, so that can be proved by what the story says"
  
• A Tip: Hempel's Raven is your greatest weapon against "Nonbelievers". Until every case of TD is proven false, TD still can exist.
  
• A Tip: Be careful of what you propose, it might lead you to your own downfall...
  

Logic Users (Anti-TD):

• You are allowed to make any statement to throw the TD claim into question. There is no Red Truth, so fire away...
  Tip: The Devil's Proof is very useful.
  
• You are not allowed to say TD doesn't exist, it goes against The Devil's Proof.
  
• Have a patience, just because you say something, doesn't mean it's true, but it doesn't mean it's false...
  
• A Tip: Hempel's Raven is your greatest weakness. Until every single TD claim is proven false, he still has the possibility of existing.
  
• A Tip: Be careful of what you propose, it might lead you to your own downfall...
  

These are not copyrighted by me. These are just proposed guidelines, so ignore every last bit you want. These guidelines/standards are subject to change...
I will be updating these frequently...
If anyone has a better name for "Logic Users", I would like to hear...

Terms:
Devil's Proof: It means the lack of evidence proves the existence of something.
Hempel's Raven: It goes a little something like this...
1. All ravens are black.
2. Everything that is not black is not a raven.
3. Nevermore, my pet raven, is black.
4. This green (and thus not black) thing is an apple (and thus not a raven).
Confusing, eh? Let me translate...
If every case of a curse is not proven to be something other than the doll, then the doll still can exist...

[tom641]

thank you. i know i should use these some.

[Nini The Collector]

hmmm.... These are vary.... useful, It was a good idea to put these up...

[Chaosky]

Maybe people will stop posting XD 500 times in each topic now.



Perhaps Jigglypuff won't be quite as wild anymore?

[bloodmeta]

Heh coolio list to go by, Pyro. I do agree with all of these.

I do hope many others will agree to these standards as well

(plus, maybe we need to sticky this...I mean, it could tell N()()bs on how to act around here, just a suggestion)

[Pyro]

As I have said before, I am open to anyone making any suggestions to the list... And coming up with a better name for Logic Fighters... It sounds a little lame... Logic Users seemed a little bland, but I'll use it if no one comes up with any other idea...

[William]

These do make alot of sence and would be a good idea with some minor changes that don't feel like we have to smile and say nothing mean for the days were here. Chaos is needed, unless it results in hurting someones feelings deeply for no real reason, then its wrong. Your rules are much better then others I have seen, but its almost like you want perfection and fourm peace. I repeat almost. I also want to point out before anyone thinks I like to start flame wars or whatever, I will say this, I can be both a loyal member and friend who will defend you with everything in my power. But I can also be a annoying as all hell troll, its all a matter of how you act towards me and or other people mostly those close to me such as the doll collector. If you want to be my friend act friendly towards me and my friends and try to accept some form of chaos or difference, instead of striving for perfection and world peace and all that other garbage.

Heres something I made when I was bored sorta translate how my loyalites and personality work. "When I join I start out with peace, quiet, and kind forms of discussion and possibly role play. As I get a better idea of my whereabouts I try to see if its missing something I must have "A well thought out discussion, comment, or debate" this is needed for me cause minor forms of chaos, debate excite me and make my life complete here. If this is missing I will do what I can to start some, but there are many things that stand in my way of a somewhat perfect unity. Children are my main enemies due to there too happy out look and think everything must be perfect, in my eyes they must learn what its like to take something. I start with a small vague comment that can become anything the reader makes it out to be, most likely it turns out to be an insult due to some slight of meanness or chaos. The objective is made, now I will make them question themselves and teach them about a unity of order and chaos is what I wish. Those who judged me quickly will also get my same objective. I will do anything by any means to show them a balance of order and chaos, those who ignore me will only excite me to keep going."

Basicly I befriend people who can take heat, can understand that fighting will happen, and are willing to accept what I have to say. Those who choose to see it as flaming, are quickly judging my words, which I hate. If anyone wants me to translate any part of my paragraph just ask.

[Pyro]

As I said before, they are proposed guidelines/standards... It's not like I actually expect anyone to follow them. I have a lot of patience, unless someone is stupid (stormthewolf)...
As I said before, I like chaos, but manly the positive aspects of it...

[TailsDollFan]

Copied to the "General Rules" thread, if you don't mind.

[The Avenger]

I don't know if putting them in the general rules is good... Will the people really follow these rules? Even though they are there, try avoiding a fight in a debate, it goes almost impossible. Pyro doesn't expect people to follow them and I don't expect as well anyone to follow these standards.

[tom641]

It's still a good idea.

[William]

I purpose a 'fair game' rule. The idea is if someone chooses to not follow these rules, then we should be allowed to do the same to that person. Fair is fair in my book

[Jigglypuff...is mad ._.]

I agree.

[TailsDollFan]

"An eye for an eye"

"An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind"

ok.

[Pyro]

Oct 13, 2009 12:22:21 GMT -5 The Avenger said:

I don't know if putting them in the general rules is good... Will the people really follow these rules? Even though they are there, try avoiding a fight in a debate, it goes almost impossible. Pyro doesn't expect people to follow them and I don't expect as well anyone to follow these standards.

Oct 13, 2009 9:06:53 GMT -5 TailsDollFan said:

Copied to the "General Rules" thread, if you don't mind.

Yeah, it's more of an how you should act here thing...
Maybe you could sticky this instead, but you're the administrator... As I said before, I will be updating this occasionally, so you can just sticky this topic or update the general rules every once in a while, if you are keeping them there...
Every time I edit these, I will change the title... Like from V.2 to V.3... Right now it's V.1 Beta...



V=Version...