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Post by Pyro on Dec 28, 2009 13:50:26 GMT -5
This really is starting to make me laugh, but only because William has sent enough attacks to put a hole through this pure soul theory... Urustune isn't really helping, but giving more material for William to work with and point out flaws and contradictions... My definition of a purest soul is someone who is perfect. Yours is someone who is good, but has some flaws. Can you please give some proof about why yours is correct and mine is incorrect? What you say makes sense, but some proof would still be nice. Sure thing KRD. It is coz of a few simple reason. 1. William said it out it is impossible for a living been to be fully pure 2. If every of them need to be perfect there would be no point for 7 heavenly virtues because that would mean they are all perfect in every way. 3. Self researches and expereiences about the purest souls 4. It is also kinda bt logical Also never forget that the name purest souls are made up by legends. It just got stucked for it. Those special souls really don't have a correct name. They could be really called as anything like Great Holy Souls, Souls of the Virutes, Chaos Souls of Light etc... You have to realize one thing. There is no good and evil in this universe. There is only law/order and chaos. Light and Darkness are meaningless terms in reality. Pure literally means to not be flawed. No one can be pure. KRD has the best explanation so far...
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Post by William on Dec 28, 2009 14:24:35 GMT -5
My definition of a purest soul is someone who is perfect. Yours is someone who is good, but has some flaws. Can you please give some proof about why yours is correct and mine is incorrect? What you say makes sense, but some proof would still be nice. Sure thing KRD. It is coz of a few simple reason. 1. William said it out it is impossible for a living been to be fully pure 2. If every of them need to be perfect there would be no point for 7 heavenly virtues because that would mean they are all perfect in every way. 3. Self researches and expereiences about the purest souls 4. It is also kinda bt logical Also never forget that the name purest souls are made up by legends. It just got stucked for it. Those special souls really don't have a correct name. They could be really called as anything like Great Holy Souls, Souls of the Virutes, Chaos Souls of Light etc... Your reasons are replied in this order 1: This is half correct cause for the, what is it 5th time pure means perfect and I repeat for the 3rd time, by human standards it is impossible. Animals, aliens, and other forms of life can be pure for all I know. 2: I have no idea what you mean by this at all. Im saying cause humans are flawed to emotions such as anger and hate, then humans can't be perfect. What the hell is with this holy crap your speaking of? I really don't get this at all, so please explain it to me. 3: Mind sharing what your personal researches are? 4: How is the 'purest souls' being imperfect make logical sense. I repeat for the 245th time (It feels like that many -_-) pure means without dirty flaws, so if there not perfect, there not pure, so this makes no sense!
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Post by KRDsonic on Dec 28, 2009 14:57:47 GMT -5
LOL THE TERM PUREST SOUL MAKES NO SENSE BY THIS LOGIC LOL. I must repeat myself again, purity/pure/purest/and all them other words means clean, flawless, and all that other shit I have said before. So the title 'purest soul' makes no fucking sense anymore cause a purest soul can be flawed, thus the term purest doesn't make sense. The term 'high souls' would make alot more sense. But whatever, like you give a shit. My view of the subject stands like this, so all your 'proof' gave me was a nice laugh and more to do. Course it did give me a bit to think about I believe that by purest soul, he means closest to being pure, not actually pure. Same context as if you say someone in a group of people is the best artist out of everyone in that group. That doesn't necissarily mean that that person is good at art, just that they're better than the others. By purest soul, that would mean the closest to being pure, meaning that although they aren't pure, every other soul out there is less pure than theirs. The only problem with defining what is and isn't pure is that it is left up to oppinion instead of fact, which is a reason I gave up the idea of there being purest souls. As far as darkest souls go... I guess it would just be the most evil souls out there, I'm not sure about any specific definition for it though since this is all theory (From what I remember, the idea of a possibility of darkest souls was a theory TDF and I had before, we never really expanded much on it though). Edit: Sure thing KRD. It is coz of a few simple reason. 1. William said it out it is impossible for a living been to be fully pure 2. If every of them need to be perfect there would be no point for 7 heavenly virtues because that would mean they are all perfect in every way. 3. Self researches and expereiences about the purest souls 4. It is also kinda bt logical Also never forget that the name purest souls are made up by legends. It just got stucked for it. Those special souls really don't have a correct name. They could be really called as anything like Great Holy Souls, Souls of the Virutes, Chaos Souls of Light etc... 1. It's not impossible actually, just very unlikely. 3. If that proves it to you, then that's what counts. Don't worry if I or some other people don't agree. 4. The only problem with saying something is logical, as a proof, is that a lot of time things that sound logical aren't always true. One example would be shapeshifting. It sounds completely illogical to most people, yet it doesn't go against any of the laws of physics (Correct me if I'm wrong there, I got my information from someone who's studied physics their whole life and from what I've seen he's rarely/never wrong when it comes to science). The only reason why you don't see it happening is because there is nothing that we know of that would be able to start that reaction. So you can't really say "That's just logical" as your proof for anything. It may work 99% of the time, but there would still always be that 1% chance of it being wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2009 15:03:21 GMT -5
Sure thing KRD. It is coz of a few simple reason. 1. William said it out it is impossible for a living been to be fully pure 2. If every of them need to be perfect there would be no point for 7 heavenly virtues because that would mean they are all perfect in every way. 3. Self researches and expereiences about the purest souls 4. It is also kinda bt logical Also never forget that the name purest souls are made up by legends. It just got stucked for it. Those special souls really don't have a correct name. They could be really called as anything like Great Holy Souls, Souls of the Virutes, Chaos Souls of Light etc... Your reasons are replied in this order 1: This is half correct cause for the, what is it 5th time pure means perfect and I repeat for the 3rd time, by human standards it is impossible. Animals, aliens, and other forms of life can be pure for all I know. 2: I have no idea what you mean by this at all. Im saying cause humans are flawed to emotions such as anger and hate, then humans can't be perfect. What the hell is with this holy crap your speaking of? I really don't get this at all, so please explain it to me. 3: Mind sharing what your personal researches are? 4: How is the 'purest souls' being imperfect make logical sense. I repeat for the 245th time (It feels like that many -_-) pure means without dirty flaws, so if there not perfect, there not pure, so this makes no sense! 1. Yes that is true, I personally not sure about can animals be perfect since they control their stuff not with be good or bad. They all mostly controlled by instincts. They do whatever just to survive. Also aliens and other stuffs don't count coz they are not from this world. So you know... the so called TD won't hunt for aliens in better hope for a perfectly clean souls. 2. That is something what makes the whole specialty about the Purest Souls. There is 7 of them, each of them is pretty much represent one of the 7 heavenly virtues. In other words each purest is really strong in one of the virtues. There is only one of each! There is none which would be highly strong in two of them. These souls are really special ones, they have really high energy inside. That is what makes them so valuable. But using the energy inside these souls would be impossible for human. 3. Srsly, not right now. It would take allot more then hours to write down all of my stuffs. Maybe I write down my whole research experiences one day... 4. You know... since this day I never thought about seriously about the name given to them... it is actually really stupid and wrong. Totally wrong. I mean the dark souls are also not called fully corrupted souls, they are called simply dark souls. So what I say is the stuff needs a serious renaming. Coz these souls are not perfect clean souls as I say. Because indeed as I checked it in the dictionary, it means fully clean. So what I say is LET'S RENAME THEM FOR REALZ. Gosh... even the word itself purest is stupid... Well yeah, I said the name was just randomly made up for them by random unknown people, they are not PURE souls. They are Clean/Light souls, but not perfectly. So yeah thanks Williams, since this day I not noticed this stupid mess up XD
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Post by William on Dec 28, 2009 15:12:12 GMT -5
Same order
1: Well really I have no idea what to say to that 2: This sounds more religious based then Tails doll based to be honest. 3: If you don't want to talk about it don't bring it up as a reason for your claim. I'll leave this alone for now until I see more of a reason to bring it up again 4: Well great, I have changed something in this topic, but clean souls still doesin't make much sense cause its sorta the same thing as pure, and light sounds lame. If you can think of a different name to reflect there place in the world and how they got this place that would be great.
Well most my work on the topic in general is said and done I believe, now for fte's claim about being a pure soul to be finished.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2009 15:17:18 GMT -5
HMmmm Actualyl... maybe Purest is corect after all. But pure is not. Since those souls are the closest to pure, But they are not pure. So some what purest is okay. I say let's keep the old name for makeing no confusions to people.
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Post by William on Dec 28, 2009 15:21:46 GMT -5
Or better for everyone I call them whatever I want, and everyone else can call them pure souls! I made my point in showing the flaw in the name, which was what I try to do, so I don't feel like I have any reason to keep bringing it up and defending it until some goes all "Well *whoever* is purest souls and he/she iz perfect cause she/he nice kind caring and loving ^_^"
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Post by KRDsonic on Dec 28, 2009 15:26:36 GMT -5
Pure is incorrect. Purest is incorrect. I already explained why in a previous post. Purest does not mean pure, it means closest to being pure without being pure.
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Post by sleepyjack on Dec 28, 2009 17:05:00 GMT -5
hey tdf can i be a purest soul (please) ?
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Post by William on Dec 28, 2009 17:39:40 GMT -5
How bout no?
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Post by sleepyjack on Dec 28, 2009 17:43:12 GMT -5
but i said please
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Post by William on Dec 28, 2009 17:51:26 GMT -5
And I said no, cause your annoying, see how that works?
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Post by TailsDollFan on Dec 28, 2009 19:45:33 GMT -5
William shut up Sleepyjack is the coolest guy evar. :U
But uh yeah, I have to side with you and KRD here.
To me, a purest soul was someone who basically was, how do I say this, "Pure", pure to me never meant they were perfect, but rather represented a strong will towards something. (Vagueness go) What I mean is if somebody was pure in the sense that they loved their friends and family, they would go to any leangth to save them, any length and that can include 'negative' emotions.
Darkest souls are kinda the opposite, they're not heartless bastards, but they are just opposite, like the opposite of the example I gave you, he wouldn't be a jackass, he just would care about himself more than everyone around and stuff. But hey, thats just me. :U
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Post by sleepyjack on Dec 28, 2009 22:36:57 GMT -5
william should be a darkest soul imho
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Post by William on Dec 28, 2009 23:57:17 GMT -5
william should be a darkest soul imho Think what you want, but you know nothing about me as a person, what you see on this fourm is only part of me, the other part of me is only seen by those who I trust. You are not one I trust and shall only know the darkest side of me until you prove I can trust you with my emotions.
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