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Post by fte2012 on Dec 27, 2009 20:50:25 GMT -5
You do know that by heart I didnt mean the beating thing behind your chest. XD And just because you have emotions it doesnt mean you are weak. Emotions define you. Sure you can control your emotions if you want. I can and I do but I only control my emotions if there is a reason to. Otherwise my feelings just brighten up my life ^^. I mean things like sadness and hate. Sure they are negative emotions. But they are there for a reason. You can conrol them if you want but for the most part they are there to teach you something. If you spent an hour crying about something then when your done you will have known what its like to experience what it is that made you cry. You learned something. And that is the beuaty of it. You dont have to agree but by all means please take that into a brief thought
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Post by William on Dec 27, 2009 20:51:25 GMT -5
William, what your referring to is a heart. A human spirit consists of a body heart and soul. SOULS are different than HEARTS. A heart is were emotions like you are speaking of come from. You really need to stop this. Because the more we argue the more chaos we bring. I know I`m right and you know your right. At this rate a argument cannot be ended. Drop it, all I did was said I believe I`m a pure soul. There is no way you can change my beliefs. Even if I was on the ground with a gun pointed at me I would never give up at what I beleive. Haha...you know you just gave me a sudden breakthrough that countered my point and your claim. Lets start with what countered my point, my point was human souls are flawed, this is not correct cause the human mind is what holds emotions. So the human mind is flawed, not the soul according to my current knowledge. Now for what made your claim garbage, now your reason for being a pure soul is 'im nice and caring' and all that other crap that alot of people have said before, how your 'nice and caring' is based around emotions which are part of the mind, NOT the soul. So your mind may be 'pure' as you claim, but not your soul! As for stoping the arguement, I won't stop my side of it cause this is just getting funny as hell XD. Another thing I don't think a pure soul would comment on a so called 'pointless arguement'. Edit: What the hell do you mean by heart then, a heart is the organ beating in your chest, a heart can't be anything else then what it is. 2nd edit cause fte keeps editing: I did take it that 'we don't have to agree with you' into brief thought and I still don't give a damn and will keep going on.
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Post by KRDsonic on Dec 27, 2009 20:56:41 GMT -5
@krd: Well im not really sure who your post was directed at or if it was directed at anything, excuse me if I have no clue who or what your talking to you. Also what the hell was up with this "sorry you're mad that you weren't the center of attention in your life, for a change "? Im not doing this for attention im doing it cause I have a point I want to make and if I feel like bringing it up I will, that is what I believe in. When you assume that something is directed towards you and respond to it in what looks like a hostile post, I respond back with a post in a similar manner. That's just how I am. I put that post out there to see if you really were just trying to see if you could contradict everything in this thread, even things that had nothing to do with what you were saying, and it seems that you are. That's all, no hard feelings.
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Post by William on Dec 27, 2009 21:01:37 GMT -5
@krd: Well im not really sure who your post was directed at or if it was directed at anything, excuse me if I have no clue who or what your talking to you. Also what the hell was up with this "sorry you're mad that you weren't the center of attention in your life, for a change "? Im not doing this for attention im doing it cause I have a point I want to make and if I feel like bringing it up I will, that is what I believe in. When you assume that something is directed towards you and respond to it in what looks like a hostile post, I respond back with a post in a similar manner. That's just how I am. I put that post out there to see if you really were just trying to see if you could contradict everything in this thread, even things that had nothing to do with what you were saying, and it seems that you are. That's all, no hard feelings. Fair enough, I asked for it and will accept it, no hard feelings KRD.
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Post by fte2012 on Dec 27, 2009 21:01:51 GMT -5
William that did`nt make any scence. a heart has emotions and you can control it. a soul is something compleatly differnet. nothing i said helped your side of the aruegment at all. Your just yabbering now and it really doesnt affect me. Your being immature. I am a pure soul. ya dont gotta beleive it. I know whats true to me and thatrs all that matters for the 5th time -_- Although yes I like how you try to be the dark type. You just feed on negativity and make no progress to proove anything. I really dont care about trying to change your mind because all you do is take what i say and TRY to turn it around and the impact on is zero. As for this getting funny as hell. I dont see how. Its just a thread about pure and dark souls. Oooooh funny lol
Sorry for the double post. BUT William you say your not gonna give it up then ya know what I dont care. Cause everything you say is ngative. So at this rate I wont give up either.
KRD edit: Please use the modify button next time.
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Post by William on Dec 27, 2009 21:09:20 GMT -5
Maybe to you its not funny, but to me this is great. The mind is the emotional part of the human body, its hold information and memories, you choose to react to this information depending on how the emotional part of your mind is. The mind is part of your emotions which are your reasons for being a pure soul according to you, the heart pumps blood, the mind holds information and reacts to it depending on the mind which is part of the whole emotions are flawed thing which I believe in. I'll stop feeding on negativity when life stops giving me negativity, which will most likely be never. The point is both our claims from before were countered so we are both wrong!
Too lazy to edit, and I don't care that im double posting. Thats fine fte, I never stop arguing unless unless someone I care for shows me this is pointless or I choose to stop, both of which are unlikely, I'll keep believing in what I believe in and will accept what happens cause of it. So bring it on mister pure soul, our battle of wits is still on!
KRD edit: Please use the modify button next time.
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Post by fte2012 on Dec 28, 2009 2:51:33 GMT -5
wow....XD
oh ya sorry for the double post but if its a battle of wits you want than it is what you shall get XD
KRD edit: Please use the modify button next time.
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Post by HyperShadowClone on Dec 28, 2009 3:07:49 GMT -5
Both of you, just use the Modify button. It's not that hard. <.<
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Post by Pyro on Dec 28, 2009 3:34:25 GMT -5
It's starting to get easier to analyze what these two are doing. Their motives. Most of our posts are being ignored, but for a reason. They are trying to prove something to each other. I wont say what, because that's simple. They wont give up until they have convinced each other, or believed they have...
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Post by KRDsonic on Dec 28, 2009 9:36:03 GMT -5
Not sure that anyone cares, but I don't believe in pure and dark souls. Not as far as humans go, at least. And if there are human pure souls, none of them are currently members of TDRL. DuskFox Altars was the closest I ever saw to a "pure" soul, but that's also mainly because I never saw any of her flaws (assuming she had any). And I know for a fact I'm not a "pure" soul because of two simple things.
1. I say I am not one. If a soul was pure, and they denied it, then that would be a lie that they said, which would mean that they did something that wasn't pure.
2. Since there is a loophole in 1, I posted 2 also. I've been in fights that I could have easily avoided. Pure souls would choose to avoid them instead. (This would apply to amost everone in the world. Be it fist fight or verbal fight, chances are if you're alive, you've done it with more of a reason just than to defend yourself).
Oh, and this is all just talking about the general definition of a pure soul, on this site.
I know this post is a bit off the current topic, but this is the thread that this goes in. I think I forgot to post this a long time ago so I'm posting it now.
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Post by William on Dec 28, 2009 11:28:09 GMT -5
Well pyro I would love to hear what you think my motive is, but I will say what my motive, or at least what I think my motive is for fighting. You see my philosophies and ways of thinking effect how I act towards people and I follow them like a religion, and my philosophy for this is if I have a point to make, hold on to it and defend it till the end, if you do not defend it then you don't believe in it. I believe that what im saying is right so I will defend it, so thats why I keep going on, even if its pointless.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2009 12:18:31 GMT -5
LOL! Everyone is wrong and I guess I need to tell peoples whats purest souls are after all. Because as I see nobody ever bothering reading OLD posts where it was said out correctly what are they are. Naow for both side opinion, BOTH IS CORRECT! But only partly... Naow let me explain it to everyone my friends. FIRST, nobody ever said they are perfect! It is an obvious fact and also a big motto of mine "Wheres light there is also always darkness". Nobody perfect, nobody ever be perfect! You kinda misunderstand the word PUREST. It is not means that it is perfectly pure. It means it more pure then the others. Like I am the best at super mario bros example, But that doesn't mean I am perfect in it. It just means I am greater in it then the others. SECOND purest souls is basically a really good/nice person. But the most important about it is that each purest is GREATLY HIGH in one of the 7 heavenly virtues (chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience, kindness, humility). Nobody perfect and everyone has little corruption inside... SO once again they are not perfect people. They are just more greatly pure then the others.
The other things are really less important. Like it came up all sorta things like hearth and etc. I say about that hearth can be meant in two ways, the biological hearth which pumps blood. Or the spiritual formed hearth what is the real source of everyones personality and etc for some people. If we think about that kind of hearth is pretty much similar or maybe even the same thing as the soul. I think the only way that this theory of the purest souls could be IMPOSSIBLE is that if souls would not exist. And far as we know it nobody can prove their existence or prove their not existence since, nobody could show a way to show everyone they are indeed exist. Just as nobody cannot say out they not exist because just coz you cannot see any way how could they exist, it not means they not exist because of that.
The whole purest souls stuff is simple as that.
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Post by KRDsonic on Dec 28, 2009 12:21:13 GMT -5
You see my philosophies and ways of thinking effect how I act towards people and I follow them like a religion, and my philosophy for this is if I have a point to make, hold on to it and defend it till the end, if you do not defend it then you don't believe in it. I believe that what im saying is right so I will defend it, so thats why I keep going on, even if its pointless. At times that can be a strong point, other times it can be nothing more than immaturity. Have you ever stopped to think that if you meet another person with that same philosophy, then you and that other person will be senselessly arguing forever even though you would both know what you say won't change how the other person views it? In the end it would simply be better to keep your mouth shut in a situation like that because if you truely believe in something, what they say won't change that. However, if the opposing person is saying something with the intent on changing you, then it is safe to assume that it would be a good idea to voice your beliefs right then and there as a way of defence. However, if what the person is saying doesn't harm you, then there really is no reason to argue. Anyways, I'm not saying anything that you did that could be good or bad, I just saw what looked like it could be a flaw with your philosophy and I'm just trying to throw out an idea that you may or may not want to take into consideration. Backing up what you believe is definitely a strong point, though just because you don't argue with everyone who has clashing views doesn't mean that you no longer keep those beliefs. Edit: LOL! Everyone is wrong and I guess I need to tell peoples whats purest souls are after all. Because as I see nobody ever bothering reading OLD posts where it was said out correctly what are they are. Naow for both side opinion, BOTH IS CORRECT! But only partly... Naow let me explain it to everyone my friends. FIRST, nobody ever said they are perfect! It is an obvious fact and also a big motto of mine "Wheres light there is also always darkness". Nobody perfect, nobody ever be perfect! You kinda misunderstand the word PUREST. It is not means that it is perfectly pure. It means it more pure then the others. Like I am the best at super mario bros example, But that doesn't mean I am perfect in it. It just means I am greater in it then the others. SECOND purest souls is basically a really good/nice person. But the most important about it is that each purest is GREATLY HIGH in one of the 7 heavenly virtues (chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience, kindness, humility). Nobody perfect and everyone has little corruption inside... SO once again they are not perfect people. They are just more greatly pure then the others. The other things are really less important. Like it came up all sorta things like hearth and etc. I say about that hearth can be meant in two ways, the biological hearth which pumps blood. Or the spiritual formed hearth what is the real source of everyones personality and etc for some people. If we think about that kind of hearth is pretty much similar or maybe even the same thing as the soul. I think the only way that this theory of the purest souls could be IMPOSSIBLE is that if souls would not exist. And far as we know it nobody can prove their existence or prove their not existence since, nobody could show a way to show everyone they are indeed exist. Just as nobody cannot say out they not exist because just coz you cannot see any way they how could they exist, it not means they not exist. The whole purest souls stuff is simple as that. My definition of a purest soul is someone who is perfect. Yours is someone who is good, but has some flaws. Can you please give some proof about why yours is correct and mine is incorrect? What you say makes sense, but some proof would still be nice.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2009 13:19:20 GMT -5
My definition of a purest soul is someone who is perfect. Yours is someone who is good, but has some flaws. Can you please give some proof about why yours is correct and mine is incorrect? What you say makes sense, but some proof would still be nice. Sure thing KRD. It is coz of a few simple reason. 1. William said it out it is impossible for a living been to be fully pure 2. If every of them need to be perfect there would be no point for 7 heavenly virtues because that would mean they are all perfect in every way. 3. Self researches and expereiences about the purest souls 4. It is also kinda bt logical Also never forget that the name purest souls are made up by legends. It just got stucked for it. Those special souls really don't have a correct name. They could be really called as anything like Great Holy Souls, Souls of the Virutes, Chaos Souls of Light etc...
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Post by William on Dec 28, 2009 13:42:35 GMT -5
LOL! Everyone is wrong and I guess I need to tell peoples whats purest souls are after all. Because as I see nobody ever bothering reading OLD posts where it was said out correctly what are they are. Naow for both side opinion, BOTH IS CORRECT! But only partly... Naow let me explain it to everyone my friends. FIRST, nobody ever said they are perfect! It is an obvious fact and also a big motto of mine "Wheres light there is also always darkness". Nobody perfect, nobody ever be perfect! You kinda misunderstand the word PUREST. It is not means that it is perfectly pure. It means it more pure then the others. Like I am the best at super mario bros example, But that doesn't mean I am perfect in it. It just means I am greater in it then the others. SECOND purest souls is basically a really good/nice person. But the most important about it is that each purest is GREATLY HIGH in one of the 7 heavenly virtues (chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience, kindness, humility). Nobody perfect and everyone has little corruption inside... SO once again they are not perfect people. They are just more greatly pure then the others. The other things are really less important. Like it came up all sorta things like hearth and etc. I say about that hearth can be meant in two ways, the biological hearth which pumps blood. Or the spiritual formed hearth what is the real source of everyones personality and etc for some people. If we think about that kind of hearth is pretty much similar or maybe even the same thing as the soul. I think the only way that this theory of the purest souls could be IMPOSSIBLE is that if souls would not exist. And far as we know it nobody can prove their existence or prove their not existence since, nobody could show a way to show everyone they are indeed exist. Just as nobody cannot say out they not exist because just coz you cannot see any way how could they exist, it not means they not exist because of that. The whole purest souls stuff is simple as that. LOL THE TERM PUREST SOUL MAKES NO SENSE BY THIS LOGIC LOL. I must repeat myself again, purity/pure/purest/and all them other words means clean, flawless, and all that other shit I have said before. So the title 'purest soul' makes no fucking sense anymore cause a purest soul can be flawed, thus the term purest doesn't make sense. The term 'high souls' would make alot more sense. But whatever, like you give a shit. My view of the subject stands like this, so all your 'proof' gave me was a nice laugh and more to do. Course it did give me a bit to think about On a different subject for a minute, what the bloody hell is a darkest soul? KRD: At times that can be a strong point, other times it can be nothing more than immaturity. Have you ever stopped to think that if you meet another person with that same philosophy, then you and that other person will be senselessly arguing forever even though you would both know what you say won't change how the other person views it? In the end it would simply be better to keep your mouth shut in a situation like that because if you truely believe in something, what they say won't change that. However, if the opposing person is saying something with the intent on changing you, then it is safe to assume that it would be a good idea to voice your beliefs right then and there as a way of defence. However, if what the person is saying doesn't harm you, then there really is no reason to argue. Anyways, I'm not saying anything that you did that could be good or bad, I just saw what looked like it could be a flaw with your philosophy and I'm just trying to throw out an idea that you may or may not want to take into consideration. Backing up what you believe is definitely a strong point, though just because you don't argue with everyone who has clashing views doesn't mean that you no longer keep those beliefs. While I do respect your reply and do admit your right, I still will keep up with this fight until something a bit more important draws my attention.
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