|
Post by TailsDollFan on May 18, 2010 20:53:50 GMT -5
Well, about the spirits, have you ever heard of how ghosts are seen usually in certain places? There are things called anti-dead zones, as I like to say it. In other words, there are certain places where all sorts of EM energy (Not all) come together, at similar frequencies. That amplifies the left over energy of someone's EM energy. That's why you don't see ghosts every time someone dies. That would also cause me to crap in my pants every second. And also, the human body gives off this energy like radio waves. When a wire is coiled, it makes radio waves, and if I'm not mistaken, our nervous system is pretty f***ing coiled up. Especially in the noggin. And so: You still fail to educate me in how the ghost/spirit becomes concious! All you're saying is that random EM waves and Radio waves bunched up together makes a ghost with a defined figure and actual concience. Ghosts and spirits are supposed to resemble and act like their physical alive selves. Plus, in order to even somewhat relate to your theory, these waves would have to be at an EXTREMELY precise frequency in an EXTREMELY precis order, and all that'll give you is a few barely noticable wisps. Radio waves and EM waves are also different, they would not mix to create what you're saying. 'Leftover life' is not an actual scientific term. Earlier this 'life' was EM waves. Why did you suddenly say they were different? Also, watching TV (Radio Waves) while turning a light on (EM waves) and my death (This 'life' I assume you're calling) would NOT make a ghost appearance. You also mention EM energy twice. See above No it does not! The brain and the universe are different in every way! The Brain is a compressed space where several different neuronic and electromagnetic reactions take place, the Universe is a near-endless area where matter can exist within! It's way too uncompressed and has way too many other factors to even resemble a brain. The Universe cannot be concious, either. According to you 'Universe brain' logic, I can grab a bowl, and throw in every kind of food known to man. But hey, why didn't I get bread? Every single food includes yeast, flour, milk and the like! Why didn't I get bread? Just because the Universe has the ingredients, it has way to many other opposing factors to resemble your theory. ZOMG NEW STUPID THEORY Okay, I should've explained this before, but electromagnetic waves arent the only thing that cause life.In fact, life gives off these waves, not the other way around. The Sun is powered through a nuclear fusion, living things are not. The Earth is a rock with a molten core floating through space. What are you smoking. I agree with the first sentence. You rely waay too much on the waves idea. These theories make less sense scientifical sense than ROland Emmerichs films.
|
|
Pyro
General
The Mastermind
Posts: 895
|
Post by Pyro on May 18, 2010 21:17:21 GMT -5
I am guessing that you are relying on electromagnetic waves, am I right? We have yet to understand the quantum world, where many things can happen. When the universe came to be, the laws of physics were chosen randomly, so we have the result. EM Energy and waves is naturally occurring. The results would have to be very similar. The EM could be highly concentrated in an area where someone happened to die, but if there are no ghosts there, that pretty much messes up your entire puzzle. The conscience of a God, by your idea, is the common collective of all things(Or rather, the EMs they put off), so if it's all things, it isn't much of its own being/entity, but more of a collective. I fail to understand how a collection of leftover energy could amount to the mind of a god. If the energy may be more complex, it could quite possibly be the mind of a being, which we could refer to as "god", but that would be more perspective based. Just to throw this out there: The ghost theory can be explained by nonlinear time. The remains of an overwritten time could quite possibly coexist alongside our own. Once a life form dies, they could be transferred over to the other time frame. Things would exist differently over there, most of the entities could feast upon the other weaker ones, keeping distinctions of that deceased person. As long as the person who died uses the energy around them, they could have a stronger presence, allowing them to appear to exist in our time frame. The reverse could be applied to us; the more energy a person has, due to something like an abnormality in the brain, allows them to semi-exist in the other time frame, resulting in a sort of "medium" or person who ghosts follow.
|
|
|
Post by hydroxianchaos on May 18, 2010 21:37:16 GMT -5
Well, much of what you said is right, yet here are a few things: "Radio waves are a type of electromagnetic radiation with wavelengths in the electromagnetic spectrum longer than infrared light. Like all other electromagnetic waves, they travel at the speed of light. Naturally-occurring radio waves are made by lightning, or by astronomical objects." -Wikipedia, the most unsure source of info on the net.
That above showed how radio waves are EM waves. Second, let me elaborate on what I said: What I meant was that the way Radio waves are made are by wrapping up wire into a coil/slinky shape, and is put through an electrical current, therefore giving off energy. And what I meant to say was that the human nervous system is made up of nerves shaped similarly to theses coils. With this, the ghost body's shape is determined, because of the specific pattern of these waves. Human brain waves could also influence the shape of the body, creating the spirit's clothes.
Now, I do admit that I am not completely sure on how the A.Dead Zones work, but I learned that the Sun bombards us with power, right? All sorts of energies? Well, I had the thought if maybe on the other side of the earth, where this power is weaker, there isn't an impact, which might be why ghosts come out at night. And when the earth is then turned towards the sun, the bombardment of this power prevents the ghost from being seen or heard, for if there is a drop of unclean water (The whole EM residue) in a filled tub (Earth), full of clean water (Sun's ray's impact), you won't recognize that its there. Get rid of the clean water(Earth turns away), you find the little speck of bad water. That thought is very unsure though.
Only in certain areas do they come out at day time. Also, it could also be that due to the fact that for some of the energy that hits earth, some is just slowly radiated back into space (No, not light) So, this could be the spirits source of power in order to stay "alive".
I'm still trying to get a logical explanation for the spirits conscious down. But lets not forget Chaosky's theory either, for like he said, energy can exist as a conscious in different dimension. Lets not just leave him in the dust there, he got pretty damn great ideas I would never think of.
And the earth has a magnetic field, so since I was bored I just made it up.
Listen to me, just muttering more nonsense about waves that go through space. How stupid I must sound like now.
|
|
|
Post by hydroxianchaos on May 18, 2010 21:40:07 GMT -5
I am guessing that you are relying on electromagnetic waves, am I right? We have yet to understand the quantum world, where many things can happen. When the universe came to be, the laws of physics were chosen randomly, so we have the result. EM Energy and waves is naturally occurring. The results would have to be very similar. The EM could be highly concentrated in an area where someone happened to die, but if there are no ghosts there, that pretty much messes up your entire puzzle. The conscience of a God, by your idea, is the common collective of all things(Or rather, the EMs they put off), so if it's all things, it isn't much of its own being/entity, but more of a collective. I fail to understand how a collection of leftover energy could amount to the mind of a god. If the energy may be more complex, it could quite possibly be the mind of a being, which we could refer to as "god", but that would be more perspective based. Just to throw this out there: The ghost theory can be explained by nonlinear time. The remains of an overwritten time could quite possibly coexist alongside our own. Once a life form dies, they could be transferred over to the other time frame. Things would exist differently over there, most of the entities could feast upon the other weaker ones, keeping distinctions of that deceased person. As long as the person who died uses the energy around them, they could have a stronger presence, allowing them to appear to exist in our time frame. The reverse could be applied to us; the more energy a person has, due to something like an abnormality in the brain, allows them to semi-exist in the other time frame, resulting in a sort of "medium" or person who ghosts follow. Not to double post, but I never thought of it that way. I C whut U did thar. Yours is ten times fold more vaild sounding than mine.
|
|
Pyro
General
The Mastermind
Posts: 895
|
Post by Pyro on May 18, 2010 22:19:40 GMT -5
I am guessing that you are relying on electromagnetic waves, am I right? We have yet to understand the quantum world, where many things can happen. When the universe came to be, the laws of physics were chosen randomly, so we have the result. EM Energy and waves is naturally occurring. The results would have to be very similar. The EM could be highly concentrated in an area where someone happened to die, but if there are no ghosts there, that pretty much messes up your entire puzzle. The conscience of a God, by your idea, is the common collective of all things(Or rather, the EMs they put off), so if it's all things, it isn't much of its own being/entity, but more of a collective. I fail to understand how a collection of leftover energy could amount to the mind of a god. If the energy may be more complex, it could quite possibly be the mind of a being, which we could refer to as "god", but that would be more perspective based. Just to throw this out there: The ghost theory can be explained by nonlinear time. The remains of an overwritten time could quite possibly coexist alongside our own. Once a life form dies, they could be transferred over to the other time frame. Things would exist differently over there, most of the entities could feast upon the other weaker ones, keeping distinctions of that deceased person. As long as the person who died uses the energy around them, they could have a stronger presence, allowing them to appear to exist in our time frame. The reverse could be applied to us; the more energy a person has, due to something like an abnormality in the brain, allows them to semi-exist in the other time frame, resulting in a sort of "medium" or person who ghosts follow. Not to double post, but I never thought of it that way. I C whut U did thar. Yours is ten times fold more vaild sounding than mine. It is only a theory. But my perspective on the universe is ever changing. In a ways, my theories on ghosts relates somewhat to Chaosky's, but differs in some ideas. Two time frames can be considered dimensions, but time frames are more likely to be unstable and constantly changing. My theory is prone to too much unpredictability, because the time frame itself won't be constant, allowing it to disappear or another to take its place. In a ways, all these theories are related, but are only changes in perspective.
|
|
|
Post by hydroxianchaos on May 19, 2010 10:54:45 GMT -5
Looks like we all have to smoothen our ideas. My perspective on the universe is always changing as well. I'll tweak on mine a bit.
|
|
Chaosky
Dedicated
Mr. Professor Chaosky
Posts: 738
|
Post by Chaosky on May 19, 2010 21:45:00 GMT -5
Interesting theory, Pyro. Incidentally, I always love how you can make anything dark. Of course, all or none of these things may be at play in our universe. (and beyond)
I always hate having more than one good idea for the same thing. It's like you're making a game and you have a bunch of great final bosses. Yes, that is an odd example.
Now regarding Hydrox's theory, TDF reminds us how seemingly ludicrous it is. Really all I can think of to back this theory up, is something similar to the chaos theory. Or infinity theory. Or randomness.
Anyway, I mean that all the energy throughout a universe could potentially create a form of consciousness. I'd say it's almost certainly not true, but we just don't know enough about the universe to say for sure.
Of course, even if it doesn't really work like this, it does in infinity. You know the drill; It is true in some universe somewhere in the infinite expanse of the multiverse. That, in turn, means it is true for an infinite number of universes. Of course, we're really just wondering if it's true for our universe, so just ignore all that.
As for the Sun and Earth being alive themselves... we're just going to save that for another time. (A.K.A. "I don't think so.")
|
|
|
Post by hydroxianchaos on May 20, 2010 6:07:42 GMT -5
(Neither do I. I was bored out of my mind.)
|
|