spiritfur
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Post by spiritfur on May 4, 2010 19:33:48 GMT -5
Well, when nonbelievers are arguing, they always bring up loopholes and things. I propose a thread where you tell me why he can't exist and I tell you why he can and probably does.
Common argument 1#
How can it come out of the TV? It can't. But on further inspection, suppose it was never in there. Many people who don't even have sonic R claim to see it! Why does the mirror trick work? BECAUSE HE DOESN'T NEED A COMPUTER TO VISIT YOU.
Common argument 2#
I tried the curse and he didn't come! ...So close and yet so far. Suppose it was busy? Using argument 1# in my case, it could have assumed nobody was going to perform the curse and went off to steal a soul on its own accord.
So yeah, you get the idea.
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Pyro
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Post by Pyro on May 4, 2010 20:28:24 GMT -5
This topic isn't really needed... Terms: Devil's Proof: It means the lack of evidence proves the existence of something. Hempel's Raven: It goes a little something like this... 1. All ravens are black. 2. Everything that is not black is not a raven. 3. Nevermore, my pet raven, is black. 4. This green (and thus not black) thing is an apple (and thus not a raven). Confusing, eh? Let me translate... If every case of a curse is not proven to be something other than the doll, then the doll still can exist... The tails doll still has a chance of existing, however, I am fighting to disprove it. Besides Your argument 1 doesn't really work, due to the common knowledge that in most curses people claimed it to come out of televisions. However, Argument 2 is fine. |
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Post by HyperShadowClone on May 5, 2010 1:15:29 GMT -5
Why does the mirror trick work? It doesn't. That can easily be just as made up as everything else. Suppose it was busy? Using argument 1# in my case, it could have assumed nobody was going to perform the curse and went off to steal a soul on its own accord. Yet according to the stories, there's many Tails Dolls, been changed from once being human. If these are to be believed, then there would easily be one to go get the soul for him. Even if there's only 1 TD, I highly doubt he would just go all "Pfft, noone's going to summon me, despite the fact so many people do anyway, so I'm just gonna go grab some random moron's soul!" |
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Post by Shadow Doll on May 5, 2010 6:27:09 GMT -5
Ouch. That had to hurt, no matter where you are from.
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Post by TailsDollFan on May 5, 2010 12:53:26 GMT -5
Common argument 1# How can it come out of the TV? It can't. But on further inspection, suppose it was never in there. Many people who don't even have sonic R claim to see it! Why does the mirror trick work? BECAUSE HE DOESN'T NEED A COMPUTER TO VISIT YOU. Common argument 2# I tried the curse and he didn't come! ...So close and yet so far. Suppose it was busy? Using argument 1# in my case, it could have assumed nobody was going to perform the curse and went off to steal a soul on its own accord. Argument #1: THis isn't as much as arguing as stating the obvious. Tails Doll isn't bound to the curse, the curse i just a flare or a calling card. I don't ONLY go to eat food when my parents come and tell me to. Argument #2: When I believed, I tried the curse on average twice per day for about 2 months and he still didn't come. Plus, it has been stated as HSC said that there are many Tails Dolls. And if you don't believe that, it is a universal fact that he has slaves to do his bidding when he's not around, so I doubt that he would miss the mounds of curses being performed when the curse was popular. I basically agree with Pyro on the devils proof thing, though. |
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spiritfur
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Post by spiritfur on May 5, 2010 17:36:23 GMT -5
Why does the mirror trick work? It doesn't. That can easily be just as made up as everything else. Suppose it was busy? Using argument 1# in my case, it could have assumed nobody was going to perform the curse and went off to steal a soul on its own accord. Yet according to the stories, there's many Tails Dolls, been changed from once being human. If these are to be believed, then there would easily be one to go get the soul for him. Even if there's only 1 TD, I highly doubt he would just go all "Pfft, noone's going to summon me, despite the fact so many people do anyway, so I'm just gonna go grab some random moron's soul!" Many tails dolls? Only like two people said that. And more like "Aaaah, I'm hungry. Nobody's summoning me. It's been two mortal 'days' since my last decent meal... I suppose I should take matters into my own paws and find myself a pure soul." |
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Post by hydroxianchaos on May 5, 2010 17:46:58 GMT -5
What I think about the TV thing is the idea of mine that TD is a bunch of condensed EM waves that allow him to touch and float (EM waves are almost completely unaffected by gravity), and so, TD could simply float right through, since a TV generates and intakes static electricity and EM energy. This is also partially my explanation on spirits and demons. And a demon could have manifested as TD and simply go through TVs. And since EM waves when condensed, can alter the enviorment, it could transform it's "slaves".
I love Tesla.
That statement had nothing to do with the topic.
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spiritfur
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Post by spiritfur on May 5, 2010 18:11:14 GMT -5
Wow. I wasn't even going to go that far, but you have a point.
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Post by TailsDollFan on May 5, 2010 18:20:30 GMT -5
[ Many tails dolls? Only like two people said that. And more like "Aaaah, I'm hungry. Nobody's summoning me. It's been two mortal 'days' since my last decent meal... I suppose I should take matters into my own paws and find myself a pure soul." You do realize how many slaves he would have by now anyway. |
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Freak
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Post by Freak on May 6, 2010 7:37:27 GMT -5
A lot?
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Post by KRDsonic on May 6, 2010 10:21:21 GMT -5
I'll put it this way, if TD was real, me and Ray would have been servants long ago (me especially, seeing all the times I've done the curse, all of the knowledge I have about most of the main people who believe in the TD curse, meaning I'd be able to cause a lot of havoc seeing as so many people trust me. Not to mention I'd be extremely loyal and would never give any hints to me being a servant unless it was for reverse psychology so other people wouldn't even consider me. Though if I was a servant I'd be saying all this stuff to trick people anyways so I suppose that doesn't matter.) Anyways... point is, I know for myself that the TD curse isn't real since I've found multiple ways of disproving it completely.
Now I know that yeah, none of are me and therefore what I'm saying is just words that you can choose to believe or not, but that's fine with me. It doesn't change the fact that I know what is true.
Anyways, yeah this post was kind of counterproductive I guess, I'm kinda brain dead from taking all of these IB exams at my school this week.
Edit: Actually, I guess to make this post possibly a little more productive, I can mention all the things I do, such as writing music, learning to draw, constantly going to play piano or bass guitar, etc. If I was a servant I wouldn't have time to do any of that stuff. Well, I would I guess, dunno. I'm thinking I should edit this post once I get back home and am less brain dead x.x
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Post by venkayladoll1240 on May 7, 2010 16:00:19 GMT -5
yes, even if TD was/wasn't real (which im not saying he isnt) I would be his servent a long time ago cuz ive tried the curse a lot.
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Post by hydroxianchaos on May 7, 2010 22:34:43 GMT -5
Say, would anyone actually WANT to be his servant? Even though you will be killed? Stupid: Based on my post, TD is made of EM waves, or Hertzonian waves. In Megaman Star Force, guys called "Mr.Hertz" help you and are also made of these waves. So.... TD is a cute looking Mr.Hertz !  *shot* Search up Megaman Star force to get the picture. |
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Post by KRDsonic on May 8, 2010 6:22:49 GMT -5
Say, would anyone actually WANT to be his servant? Even though you will be killed? Not to mention I'd be extremely loyal and would never give any hints to me being a servant unless it was for reverse psychology so other people wouldn't even consider me. That should answer (d) |
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Post by venkayladoll1240 on May 8, 2010 9:26:19 GMT -5
Say, would anyone actually WANT to be his servant? Even though you will be killed? Stupid: Based on my post, TD is made of EM waves, or Hertzonian waves. In Megaman Star Force, guys called "Mr.Hertz" help you and are also made of these waves. So.... TD is a cute looking Mr.Hertz ! *shot* Search up Megaman Star force to get the picture. When I was obsessed with TD, I wanted to be his servent and I hate Megaman. |
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