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Post by G-Virus on Jul 8, 2010 21:31:12 GMT -5
You never did piss me off. I was simply saying what I said.
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Post by Seeker on Jul 15, 2010 13:25:32 GMT -5
Demons are not controlled by God. While they can be controlled by God, they don't exactly take orders from Him. Why else do you think the devil is sometimes called prince of demons. And Satan And God aren't the same thing <.<. And to screw up your "God is a troll" statement, humans were created for His glory, but unfortuanately stupid devil creep Satan had to come and tempt Eve into sinning, give snakes a bad image, and screw up humanity. Oh and since basically God sent His son to die for our sins, and then rose again, He won a long time ago, and will win again after He has judged the Unsaved, destroys Satan for good, and makes sin no longer in existance. i love to argue about this. let's say that god exist and he created everything, that includes demons and lucifer, lucifer is the light bringer he's (or was) a judge of god... i'll end up writing more than i want so lets skip this supposing that you know the story god is omniscent so that means he knows what happened what is happening and what will happen now, he knew that lucifer had envy, he knew that lucifer will betray him, he knew that he lucifer would drive eva to sins ask yourself why he didn't stopped him also god is omnipotent, and he is able to create a rock so heavy that not even him could lift him thus he isn't omnipotent
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Post by darkmartio on Jul 15, 2010 13:38:30 GMT -5
According to Wikipedia, Lucifer is a light-bearer, which means the dawn appearance of Venus, or an fallen angel, and the most well known fallen angel is Satan. And(if I'm right) Satan was an angel, Michael's younger brother. He was jealous, and God banished him, making him the first fallen angel. I think, and Lucifer/Satan created the Demons, not God. Just saying about the post above.
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Post by Pyro on Jul 15, 2010 13:42:52 GMT -5
Demons are not controlled by God. While they can be controlled by God, they don't exactly take orders from Him. Why else do you think the devil is sometimes called prince of demons. And Satan And God aren't the same thing <.<. And to screw up your "God is a troll" statement, humans were created for His glory, but unfortuanately stupid devil creep Satan had to come and tempt Eve into sinning, give snakes a bad image, and screw up humanity. Oh and since basically God sent His son to die for our sins, and then rose again, He won a long time ago, and will win again after He has judged the Unsaved, destroys Satan for good, and makes sin no longer in existance. i love to argue about this. let's say that god exist and he created everything, that includes demons and lucifer, lucifer is the light bringer he's (or was) a judge of god... i'll end up writing more than i want so lets skip this supposing that you know the story god is omniscent so that means he knows what happened what is happening and what will happen now, he knew that lucifer had envy, he knew that lucifer will betray him, he knew that he lucifer would drive eva to sins ask yourself why he didn't stopped him also god is omnipotent, and he is able to create a rock so heavy that not even him could lift him thus he isn't omnipotent Sounds similar to the riddle of Epicurus. " Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
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Post by Jojenga on Jul 15, 2010 13:55:57 GMT -5
...there's a reason that guy who made the riddle has 'Epic' in his name. but nah, i kid. I respect all religions. ...also, i think this was iminent.
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Post by G-Virus on Jul 15, 2010 17:06:04 GMT -5
Heh, ya know, in Romans (I think the first chapter) there is a verse that says that God saw that man got so messed up he simply just let them succumb to immorality. Kinda like how a parent tells their child, " Dont do it." while the child keeps insisting on doing it until the parent says, " Ok, you know what, have it your way, but don't say I didn't warn you."
However, God did leave us with that part we call conscious and soul so that when we hear or read His word we'll be convicted of conscious.... that is if you're willing to "take it all in".
Oh and seeker person, I've heard that quote many times, and to be honest, I really don't know why he let it happen, He just did. May have something to do with our free will, I don't know, I'll ask God when I meet in Him in Heaven x).
Oh and demons are just fallen angels, not exactly a Creation from Satan. Satan can't create, he only corrupts.
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Post by Seeker on Jul 15, 2010 18:02:08 GMT -5
and all that is part of ''god as trolled adan and eva big time'' and to add the ''what the fuck'' taste to the thread i'm christian
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Post by Shadow Doll on Jul 15, 2010 18:09:50 GMT -5
I'm Christian, but not sure what to believe anymore. HE/SHE doesn't seem to be there for me in my bad times of life...all 10 years of them...at all..WHY "GOD"? WHY IGNORE ME?! *shot*
And that's why I don't know what to believe anymore.
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Post by Seeker on Jul 15, 2010 18:19:56 GMT -5
you didn't have my magical cure-all bullets here have some *shooted targirl* TA-DA you are cured from whatever you had
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Post by Shadow Doll on Jul 15, 2010 19:30:55 GMT -5
Which was boredom. Bullets shot AT me kills boredom? Other way. I do the shooting at someone ELSE, then yeah. *shoots at seeker with a spartan laser.* THAT WAS FUUUNN! *shot*
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Post by hydroxianchaos on Jul 15, 2010 19:50:06 GMT -5
In Soviet Russia, Pixel gets shot with lazer by seeker! ( ) • • U *shot for smiley spam*
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Post by Chaosky on Jul 15, 2010 20:24:28 GMT -5
also god is omnipotent, and he is able to create a rock so heavy that not even him could lift him thus he isn't omnipotent Just for the sake of explaining infinity, I should point out that an omnipotent god could then increase his power to enable him to lift the rock. Being all powerful means that you are all powerful, and can overcome infinity.
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Post by Pyro on Jul 15, 2010 20:31:45 GMT -5
Eh... I don't really see why everyone is arguing over this Devil's proof. Once you either prove or disprove TD, then you can jump to the levels of god(s). Personally, I'll stick to fighting TD cases, as God cases wont affect me whatsoever...
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Post by G-Virus on Jul 15, 2010 21:25:59 GMT -5
I have one thing to say, seeker, why the in the fricking heck do you mean? Are you saying you're Christian, or that the thread is now called " Im Christian"? And enough with "Gawd trawled us lololol", the reason being is because He gave us free will to choose what we want, as I've said before.
And Crystal, God is not some magical genie who grants your wishes, yes He wants to help, but He also gives you the ability to try and improve whatever is going on.
I leave this thread be. Don't say you haven't been warned, and don't say people haven't tried to explain to you.
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